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Re: Good Night and Good Luck: What does it mean to be an American now?
Posted:
Dec 15, 2005 8:13 PM
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> Of course, Coyote, I'm for the making of films about
> things which contemporary film makers pan.
I don think so. I think you are just trying to eat up "forum air", just like all of your fellow "spin" fellows.
However,
> films will be made outside of our control about
> things which may or may not meet with our approval.
This is just silly; we do not go to the theater; and so we affect what gets made in the future; remember "movies" operate in a 'free market'.
We have a whole hell of a lot of control!
> That's life. I really believe that George Clooney
> is not intimately acquainted with the entire history
> of the Comintern started under Lenin and its
> philosophy of contaminating the world with its
> totalitarian nightmares.
Bob; at what point are you going to out grow your infantile obseeesion with right wing spin non sense. It is unbecoming of some one that might be able to think a single thought through if you would only practice some cultural maturity.
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> From what I read about how the film was conceived,
> Clooney met Murrow's sidekick, read his book,
> thought, "boy I had no idea how McCarthy f---ed over
> actors and writers," and decided that Good Night and
> Good Luck, would finally shine the light of day on
> this dark era of a terrible place called the USA.
It was a terrible place for any of us who outside the "right color". You being a white man have no idea what horrid place the USA was at that time. You just do not have a clue of horible things happening becasue of the "fear" that White men pushed onto the rest of the country; it is those very excesses that gave rise to the 60's. It a much more challenging read of history than your right wing 'gerber's' blend; but it did put our own understanding of "White Male" abuse of the world. Grow up Bob and accept responsibility for what your kind 'really' did do.
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> This venal system of organizing societies, Communism,
> and the effort to promote it throughout the world,
> (in the US through the Communist Party of the USA,
> CPUSA), has a story that should be told. A tiny
> part, after the darkest hours of espionage in our
> country's history, was the Senate hearings chaired by
> McCarthy. And a smaller part than that was when
> actors and writers were summoned.
>
> At first thought these were going to stand up to
> McCarthy, admit their benign affiliation, and tell
> the committee, more less, to go to hell. Which would
> have been illuminating. The party, CPUSA, however,
> told them to resist. And the rest is history.
> Martyrs were created over night, which was the plan.
> And to this day they remain so even after
> r successful careers.
And why not throw in the "myth of the slaughter of the Jews" as yet another "left wing lie", remember that much of Hollywood was also Jewish.
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> So, yes, there are many films to be made. I would
> predict that the producer who taps into this treasure
> trove of history will be fabulously successful.
I doubt it Bob; Movies are never true history; they are 'fables' about history. Fables and myths. Nothing more.
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> As for immigrant populations within the US and their
> promotion, for whatever purpose, I really have no
> opinion.
This is where your racism is showing Bob; you presume that I and my people are "imigrants". We do not think of ourselves as imigrants; we are an "occupied " people. You really need to read "American" hsitory to understand the position of "La Raza". Look at the history of the maps of America over the last 200 years. And then think. You can do that Bob, I have faith in you.
I don't know how it is incumbent on any
> indigenous population to promote immigrants in their
> midst. It barely makes any sense except for the
> graciousness of the host to the newly arrived. My
> forebears were not exactly handed the keys to the
> city. And if my station in life is any reflection of
> how they were treated, then it must have been a
> miserable welcome at the pier.
You are free white male; you are the most privialaged and spoil citizen in the world, of all time. If you have not prospered; let me quote a great American, George Rafferty, governor of California ' let them pull themselves up by thier own huarache straps!'. To which we Chicanos responded; we will over populate California and ship your bones back to your fore fathers land in your boots!!!
Coyote Infinity
The Chicano Artist de Minnesota
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