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Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 12, 2003 11:50 PM

> I certainly did not mean to insult anyone. I do not
> believe engineers/web designers are denigrated by the
> dilbert reference. My father-in-law happens to be a
> dilbert. He revels in the comparison. There are
> dilbert cartoons littering their cubicles. Dilbert
> is a very wise and insightful character that just
> happens to be mired in an absurd world.
>
> Sam

Hey Sam,

I know you weren't insulting anyone, I come from a family of engineers. Dilbert is a bit of a hero with us. But it is still important to understand the background of the people involved with this project. The developers, project manager, webmaster, designer, marketing people, etc... are all artists or actively working in the art world. They understand and appreciate intangible and sometimes impractical things. That is something most engineers and DIlbert don't do well. Having all of these people involved also means that I am not the only person on the project that knows the daily struggle of being an artist. But, I am the person bringing your thoughts to the table.

Oh, and Damn you impersonal web communication that does not allow for nuance of meaning, damn you to helllllll....

Colin

Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 12, 2003 11:57 PM

> Wow Colin, I've so much respect for you. It's cool
> that you took the post down. I was going to do that
> today after the thing played out, thankyou.
> You said some very exciting things about being a
> sustainable community and I'm very grateful and in
> much agreement. I don't want to undermine anyone or
> anything. Right now I just see potential so
> extraordinary I wish everyone inclusion and the best.
> Thanks for helping me see the depth of this. man, i
> think i'm gonna cry

Thanks Ray,

I know you are all trying to improve the communities you live and work in and that none of you are trying to undermine this project. In no way do I want to stop the momentum of MM. But, I did want to give you some things to think about as you proceed. Let me repeat that I think the Minnesota Mediocre concept is great and I am excited to so see you bring it into existence.

So, get to it. You know where I'm at on the matter.

Colin

jaime longoria

Posts: 1,161
Registered: Oct 7, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 13, 2003 11:08 AM

> > Brendon are you really up for this. It will
> require
> > courage when we start to get attacked for
> "insulting"
> > the lurkers, and faint of heart and every proud
> > Minnesotan.
> >
> > Can you drawup an e-mail to send to everyone whose
> > work gets nominated for this show explaining that
> we
> > are not ridiculing their work but acknowledging
> that
> > it is whole and wholesome just like "Hot dish".
> >
> > Art done solely for the Artist's own enjoyment has
> to
> > be clearly understood as at the core of the
> concept
> > of Minnesota Mediocre.
> >
> > Can you write that well? Then lets have it dude!
> >
> > "trick" or "treat"
> >
> > coyote 256
>
> yes, i am certainly up for this. there is no reason
> to doubt my courage or resolve concerning matters of
> art, and i will prove this to you. i am drafting the
> e-mail that you speak of this afternoon and i will
> send it to you this evening. and, yes... i'm a damn
> fine writer

Much love and respect sir!

Jaime

Brendon Wenzel

Posts: 42
From: minneapolis, mn
Registered: Nov 20, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 13, 2003 6:00 PM

jaime,

i just sent the e-mail draft to you... let me know what you think. i apologize for not getting it to you last night (as i said i would). i sent it as a microsoft word 2000 attachment.

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 13, 2003 10:43 PM

"Idea:
How hard to is it make 15' x 8' 'sails' of steel half pipe floating 9' above the ground for a Gabriel to "tag" and have the steel as it rusts rip and destroy his " writing " on the surface?

coyote 256"

I'm a little confused here. By half pipe you mean like the skateboarders use? How is it mounted 9' above the ground? Mounted virticaly/standing upright or horizontally like the skateboarding rink?

Without more details, I will say generally there are two problems when trying to make something: problems of complexity/design and problems of scale. The latter is more at work here. It would not be "hard" to do, just rather involved. And if I understand correctly, you are thinking of steel thin enough to disintegrate in a reasonable amount of time? First, steel is very resilient so it won't "tear", it would just rust through over time and fall apart in a more web-like effect (the paint would impede the rust considerably as well). Secondly, steel that thin is very, very sharp. Imagine a paper cut that can slice open your hand. If you go heavier it is safer but more resilient and harder to work with. Just some thoughts.

Sam

jaime longoria

Posts: 1,161
Registered: Oct 7, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 14, 2003 9:39 AM

Brendon

Thank you.

You are of the village that will make this Coyote Stone Soup of everyone's contribution of the heart.

It will exist in this space before it occurs in real world.

I am honored to know you.

coyote

I need to run it by Colin and see if it will do the job of excluding the Walker from risk in this project.( we must respect Colin's obligation to his employers)

jaime longoria

Posts: 1,161
Registered: Oct 7, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 14, 2003 9:43 AM

You are right about the idea being Big Pipe, but the "tearing " is about the rust tearing through the paint. Safety is a concern as other writers would immediately enter into the writers duel.

Thank you for the information;

Does your Father's facility contract to build such a thing?

Lets talk on Sunday.

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 14, 2003 9:59 AM

> Does your Father's facility contract to build such a
> thing?
>

He could set you up with darn near anything you want. People often ask "is this possible" when explaining something to him and the immediate response is always "anything is possible."

Sam

Robin Dowden

Posts: 4
Registered: Oct 31, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 14, 2003 4:38 PM

Hello all, Dilbert here. I'm the project manager for mnartists.org and excited to see the ways you're using the site and forums. Next week I'm giving a paper on mnartists.org at a Museums & the Web conference. The session is about building online community and one of the tips is "let the community help define the rules." This topic will be the example.

Okay, so a couple of practical points about the project at hand. Colin's right: if you're going to copy and reupload mnartists.org images, you need to ask the artists for permission. Using the postcard feature to assemble candidates is a great idea, but we can't automate the process for you. You'll need to send the cards to your project coordinator (Ray?) and go from there. We're in the process of developing a feature that's perfect for this project -- unfortunately, it won't be ready for your April 15 proposal deadline. The feature will allow registered users of the site to create collections of mnartists.org work and artists. You'll be able to keep these collections private or make them public. The collections feature will be available this summer.

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 14, 2003 7:53 PM

Hello Robin, thanks for dropping in. You obviously wield great power... no offense by the Dilbert comment, right?...

I like the collections idea. I was thinking along those lines every time I'd check out somebody's work when I saw it on the homepage but then I'd forget their name later and couldn't find it again.

Keep up the good work!

Sam

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 15, 2003 1:50 AM

Robin - that's wonderful news! I think a lot of people will utilize this feature - currently, I just bookmark my favorites, but it would be nice to have a way (beyond the "you guys are good" thread) to share.

Thanks for all of your hard work here - good luck at the conference next week!

Lauren

Gabriel Combs

Posts: 1,497
Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 15, 2003 11:58 PM

My
Art
Sucks

Martial
American
Stupidity

Men
Are'nt
Smart

Moms
And
Sisters

Managing
Anger
Succesfully

Masochistic
Alienation
Sickn ess

Machismo
Attributed
Stress

Mournful
Anguish
Saddening

MissingAnal
Suppository

Methodically
Assisted
Suicides

Meandering
Artistic
S uggestions

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 16, 2003 4:27 PM

Mad
Ass
Scientist

Gabriel Combs

Posts: 1,497
Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 16, 2003 6:06 PM

Mocking
A
Suckup

Gabriel Combs

Posts: 1,497
Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Dialogue
Posted: Mar 16, 2003 7:08 PM

Merging
Accrued
Sorites

Meiotically
Admitting
Submission

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