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J.P. Rennquist

Posts: 27
From: Duluth MN
Registered: Aug 20, 2005
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:41 PM
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"group" is the key word there. Losing money on your own is certainly fun, but way, way too exhausting!

Steve McClellan

Posts: 18
Registered: Aug 19, 2005
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:42 PM
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I'd love to stay on this forum, but I did tell people that I would meet them at the IBA gathering (eveyone's welcome).

I guess I can only finalize my ranting with the statemen:

I don't know what the solution is for bringing the developing artists and the independent businesses back into some sort of health. I do know that there needs to be some impetus to re-vitalize both true ORIGNIAL development in the arts and the small businesses and non-profits that allow them the incubation to succeed OR fail.

I do know that conservative old systems that resist change, must change for the good of all. I also know that the more one steps on the minority, the more society creates criminals. I mean this in an organizational sense. How many small businesses will NOT join an organization like IBA because they are surviving by NOT following the rules? Do all new buseinsses call in the inspectors when the modify their plants or retail location? How many small businesses accurately report all their revenue? I do know that as survival gets tougher and tougher for the small independent, the system will create more business violating code or tax law or other burdens that are causing bankruptcy and closings.

Well, I'm still looking for both the questions and answers I guess.

Thanks Colin, Chris, JP, and all the other behind scenes staffers at mnartists.org who allowed me the opportunity to rant opinions on the panel.

Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:45 PM
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JP,

Just to clarify about the value of having this discussion in public. Typically, only the panelists post and a lot of people stop by to read the discussion. I've heard that 95-98% of participants in online forums never post.

Thanks again to all three of our panelists this evening.

Best,
Colin

J.P. Rennquist

Posts: 27
From: Duluth MN
Registered: Aug 20, 2005
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 30, 2005 8:52 PM
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Colin,

Yeah, I think that it is a really cool thing. I'm totally new to this form of sharing. So I appreciate that folks can read through the discussion later and also just sit idly by and watch us share.

This is certainly one of those wonderful forces that could revolutionize our culture. Big Kudos to you all, and I look forward to checking back and reading posts on this an other forums in the future. for sure.

thanks!

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 31, 2005 6:05 AM
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That was great reading.

Taking it all into consideration, I think it is time to invite BONO to the Norshore. To play, and donate.

If Russell Crowe can shell out 12 million for throwing a phone... THINK about how much some folks could contribute to beauty.
You just need to communicate this vision to rich celebrities who care about unique culture, creativity, and true beauty.

Keep Duluth, Duluth!

Long live Norshore AND 1st Ave

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 31, 2005 8:56 PM
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Norshore is a proper Non-profit organization by now isn't it?
Get your 501(c)3 asap if not.

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Aug 31, 2005 8:59 PM
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Furthermore, I would refer you to the last page of this document
>>>http://expansion.walkerart.org/project/press/CapitalCampaign3.pdf

It is the donor list of people who care about art.

From $1 to $5 Million and above.



<----Whisteling innocently

Ann Klefstad

Posts: 95
Registered: Nov 29, 2002
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Sep 1, 2005 10:52 AM
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Hey clever Ray! your information sharing has gotten better and better! Thanks on behalf of all.

And JP, we should talk. I had studio space in the Corner of the Lake bldg and yes, I can feel the forces hovering around the dear old NorShor.

AK

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001
Re: Music Presenters
Posted: Sep 1, 2005 7:38 PM
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Thanks. I've got quite a cannon this evening. I'll probebly post in "What are you doing today"/ (Gotta grab some coffee first)

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