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PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: May 15, 2005 2:56 AM
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QUESTION: HOW CAN WE CROSS-POLLINATE WITH THE NATIVE AMERICAN DANCE COMMUNITY? (convened by Marylee Hardenbergh)

SUMMARY: report by Derek Phillips

Derek: As far as I know, there was no one in the session who is Native which I personally want to change.

Primarily this happens through a personal connection with someone in the community who can act as a kind of liaison. Is it better to find someone to represent you or just hope the best for a connection? Is dance a good venue for this kind of cross-pollination? Perhaps some other art form would be better. As non-Natives, we do need to work to understand Native American culture(s) as well as the struggles that Native American culture is experiencing within itself.

Time!!! -- the importance of time in developing a long-term relationship. Short term, one-time, one-shot deals are not the best way to work towards developing relationships with the community.


SESSION NOTES:

Open Space Report

Topic: How can we cross-pollinate with the Native American dance community?

Convener: Marylee Hardenberg

Participants: Derek Phillips, Marcia Chapman, Ann Markenson, Marguerite Sullivan, Maria LaNave, Nan Zosel

Session Notes: Marylee spoke about her experiences becoming connected with Native American dancers as she prepares for her summer solstice outdoor dance performance on the Mississippi. It began through a personal – almost spiritual - connection. The dancers wished to be represented in a positive light. As a part of the process, the dancers began coming forward with their own ideas

The time factor - continuation and follow-through -is very important. Take time to develop the relationship. Marylee’s piece has become a tradition, which seems to increase the level of trust within the community. Is this a long term project?

Is having a liaison or representative to work in your behalf better than a personal connection?

Is dance a good venue for cross-pollination?

The difficulty in getting past the “cultural unity.” Non-natives need to understand Native American culture as well as the struggles within the culture.


Ray Rolfe

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Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Aug 18, 2005 7:59 PM
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When I lived in Seattle, I met a native woman. She offered to bring a friend and I to Tillicum Village. ( http://www.tillicumvillage.com/index.htm )
We took a boat out into the Puget Sound, ariving on an island. Pretty sweet place. They feed us a Salmon dinner and performed native dances!

Here is what the website has to say;

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Members of the Tillicum Village dance team come from a variety of First People Nations. They enjoy sharing their cultures with guests visiting Tillicum Village and each other as well.
Dances from the Northwest Coast are valuable possessions owned by individual or families. Tillicum Village is fortunate to have been gifted a variety of dances to share with guests. The "Dance of the Terrible Beast," a favorite with visitors, was given to Tillicum Village by Joe Hillaire of the Lummi Nation.
The style of dance and the reason for dances change from tribal nation to tribal nation along the Northwest Coast. Masks such as the one used in this Nuu-chah-nulth Ancestral Mask Dance help identify the dance's area of origin. Dances could move from one group to another through marriage, inheritance or as spoils of war.
"""""""

There, now you understand a little tiny bit about Native dance. If you respect local native tribes, perhaps you will be blessed to witness a dance. In which case the following may be of value;

Native American Dance

New Motion Capture technology provides rich possibilities to explore, fully digitally archive and critically examine the relatively undocumented and therefore invisible traditions and adaptations of Native American dance. In response, investigators propose to foster a residency think tank experience including dancers, students and audiences to explore and address these issues and produce a best practices model for the use of Motion Capture as an archival and analysis resource for ethnic dance preservation and cultural inquiry.
Capture Date: Oct. 14 and Oct. 16, 2003 - project ongoing
( http://accad.osu.edu/research/mocap/mocap_news.htm )

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001
Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Aug 18, 2005 8:24 PM
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Oh yeah. This is kinda cool.
http://nativedancer.ndsu.edu/demos/ .

Derek Phillips

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Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Oct 9, 2005 5:01 PM
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I’ve just posted an introduction under the Please Start Here forum. I hope you’ll take a moment to read it. I was happy to find the notes from this and other related sessions posted here. Since the gathering, I've been working with Maria LaNave and Debra Leigh to organize to a gathering of dance artists that work in culturally based dance forms. I intend to post specific information soon. It will be a tremendous help to refer others to these pages for background information. Thanks for being here!

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
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Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Oct 9, 2005 7:57 PM
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cool

Derek Phillips

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Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Oct 16, 2005 1:52 AM
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You are invited to join a gathering of dance artists who work in culturally based dance forms:

Friday, November 4, 2005
1:00 PM – 4:00 PM
Perpich Center for Arts Education
Professional Development Building
6125 Olson Memorial Highway
Golden Valley, Minnesota
contact: Derek Phillips, 612-870-4055

This gathering is open to any who have interests in culturally based dance: artists who are native to a culture, artists who participate in a culture that is not their native heritage or others who share interests in culturally based dance. The definition of "culturally based dance” is quite broad. Although it may imply “non-western” (i.e. American or European) dance styles, it is not a limitation.

The impetus for this gathering comes from several sessions that were conducted during the McKnight's Foundation's dance gathering at the Walker Art Center in May 2005. During that time, many of us discovered we shared a number of common concerns that were worthy of further discussion. You can access session notes from the gathering by visiting

http://mnartists.org/community/forum.jspa?forumID=76&start=0

There is no formal or pre-determined agenda. The initial goal is to become acquainted with each other, begin building relationships and community, and discover what common concerns emerge. We hope you will share your thoughts and experiences.

Please spread the word of this gathering to any or all who you think might be interested. We are especially interested in connecting with dance communities in Minnesota that are less visible or sometimes overlooked. If you are unable to attend this initial meeting, but wish to be kept informed, please contact one of the artists below. We want to hear from you and look forward to seeing you!

Yours in dance,

Maria LaNave
612-722-2159
mclanave@hotmail.com

Debra L. Leigh
320-252-5676
dlleigh@stcloudstate.edu

Derek Phillips
612-870-4055
derekdancer@mac.com

Derek Phillips

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Re: PM SESSION: Cross-pollination with Native American dance community
Posted: Dec 20, 2005 9:40 PM
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Notes from the Cultural Dance Gathering
Friday, November 4, 2005
Perpich Center for Arts Education
submitted by Derek Phillips

Attendees: Barbara Bezat, Patricia Brown, Mary Kay Conway, Barbara Cox, Kristine de Sacramento, Amy Frimpong, Nora Jenneman, Maria LaNavé, Debra Leigh, Sara McCaul, Jane Peck, Derek Phillips, Leili Pritschet, Bob Young Walser, Nan Zosel

Debra shared “Upside-Down Goldilocks” as a discussion starter and posed the question “What is the norm?”

“Upside-Down Goldilocks” is from the Bears’ perspective and presents their values. They are like us. Their privacy has been violated. They are only asking for respect. Many rules or laws are two-sided; they are not fair to both sides at the same time. What is the norm in dance culture? Some stories perpetuate stereotypes.

The media presents us with the norm - such as ballet or jazz - or the idea that we should notice something because it is different. The dancer is often subordinate to the dance. The norm is situated in the moment, as when people are dancing. It is different with performance-oriented dance. The norm in the press is what they choose to review. What’s the norm in Minnesota in the big sense? Small communities are excluded in the press’s view of the norm. There are boundaries around each community.

Having a norm creates tension. There is value to having pure, highly codified dance forms and keeping them pure. Having a norm encourages the public to put all forms together or confuse them. There is also a tension between academic/artistic dance and popular/entertainment dance. People also have varying relationships to ethnic-based dance vs. formalized performance. Economics also plays a role: who benefits from dance being normalized? Who makes money? Cultural dance forms are difficult to categorize because they are marginalized. How do we move from dance within a culture to dance that moves a culture?

There is a place for collaboration, but cultures also need to stand on their own.

There are many different countries in Africa, and many different cultures and languages within each country. This information gets lost and needs to be explained. We’re participating in cultural illiteracy.

You represent your history by your presence. Accept responsibility for yourself. How to move with them? What’s the pulse used to set pattern? There is no courage in keeping quiet.

The dominant culture works from assumptions and doesn’t look at the diversity within. How do we consider/value what good dance is?

The first thing that is needed is an audience. Where do we get it? Money is also needed. Where do we get it? We need to develop an audience that understands what we are doing. We need to get a broader based audience and funding.

We need to be able to speak the language that helps those outside a culture understand the work. Cultural fear prevents many connections - go back to the source. It is easy to not pay attention to climbing on the shoulders of others and pulling others up. There are problems with the larger structure. It questions a dancer because they don’t fit the norm. Dancers who have passion, but little technique.

How dance is reviewed? – technique vs. expression. How do we change the view of the majority who looks at dance as technique? We need to develop our own reviewers for publications. It is difficult to keep dance writing out there. Reviews come in the back door. More previews are needed. The dialogue about dance is missing in reviews. Reviews are used as previews to draw an audience.

There is a problem of dancers feeling beat down, especially African-Americans. Are there other experiences? Age is a factor as well. African-Americans don’t dance ballet or jazz at home, only in the studio. Street dancing is different. The gift of loving your dance can’t be graded or judged. Technique can. Dance forms have grouped technique together and those criteria don’t apply to all forms. There isn’t much credit given to having spirit but not technique

There are two levels of conversation: 1) white people are higher up the ladder and experience dance “in the head.” 2) Black people are primarily concerned about access and acceptance. We need to begin looking at privilege and race. Should I be doing this or are there better ways? Do I have enough information to move forward? Cultural supremacy has been the source of frustration when we wish to make things different. We need to get a handle of the access piece. But how? Feeling isolated creates the fear of breaking down the entry point.

Many people dance because someone gave them permission to dance and inspired them to join. The entry happens in very small steps. Minneapolis/St Paul was closed dance community, which explains why many independent dancers started companies. What happens if you give up? We have to infiltrate collectively. You have to use the system - grant writing is different kind of art form. Can individuals from different cultural backgrounds connect and support each other? Is the creation of a new dance alliance, website or clearinghouse a possibility? Could Springboard for the Arts be helpful? An information collector should go out into communities.

How do dance teams fit into the picture? So much dance work is performance oriented. The educational component is not represented and others are invisible. How we frame the question with different cultural communities is important. Other cultures look at art and artists differently. They don’t see them as separate entities. They are much more a part of what naturally occurs in the community.

Debra offers a four-hour anti-racism workshop for up to 50 people. She is willing to donate her services.

Possible resources: Metro Council, Springboard for the Arts

For the future:
- Debra’s anti-racism workshop
- Regular gatherings, possibly monthly. Draw in more people and build the network
- Changing the norm.

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