Ray Rolfe
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Re: Feedback on Articles
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Aug 20, 2003 4:57 PM
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I just read it!
http://mnartists.org/article.do?rid=24269
YES! Thats what i'm saying! Very good Andrew Knighton. I need new language to express how strongly I agree and constantly try to activate that whole concept.
And now i see that the current chatter elsewhere is informed by this article. Love it man.
It is great that you recognize the allready existing infostructure can be better utilized through a collectivization. And RIGHT NOW, IMMEDIATELY! And it requires almost no effort other then comprehension (info sleuthing), as you point out, it is the fundamental nature of art action/experience. I just love this paragraph;
"As Holland Cotter pointed out in the New York Times back in January, one possible way of dealing with these straitened times is by embracing the collectivization of artistic practice. Such a strategy not only diffuses economic imperatives among loosely affiliated producers, but furthermore promises to introduce new models of artistic community in the spirit of the counterculture projects of the ‘60s and ‘70s, which enjoyed a considerable degree of autonomy from institutions and the market. Today, thanks to the increased mobility of people and ideas through communication and transportation networks, these collectivizations can, for the first time in human history, be truly global, mobile, and immediate."
Yep! Thanks for informing me, us. I know I can serve as a catalyst towards quickening this realization by pointing people to your article and to the discussion "what do artists need" as it relates very practicably. Yes, I belive we are practicing the first conscious actions of collective creativity. http://mnartists.org/community/thread.jspa?forumID=13&threadID=765&tstart=0
Also, to cheerlead this section, I repost it here;
"the most important part of this strategy, especially in a culture like ours -- so steeped in myths about individuality, romantic genius, and self-interest -- is also the simplest: accepting that art is always fundamentally collective anyway. Art requires a network of producers, critics, institutions, and spectators to be what it is. It is only by amplifying these inherent collective strengths that we can do something more than muddle through the current economic squalls, and instead build a community that is stronger and more responsive to our desires."
Again, i exclaim, YES! It starts with asking someone what they desire with the impetus to help. I did this back in 1997 with the CDC (creative dreaming collective, not community development corporation). And Michael Fallon is doing that now with the "What do artists need" discussion. Back in the late 90's I was running around the city with surveys asking people, artists, kids in coffee shops, what are your dreams for your life? What is it you ultimately want for yourself and for the city? The idea was to gather enough information to know where our individual dreams overlap and have the potential to be strengthened and realized collectively. I mean, if we are all dreaming of doing the same thing, lets work together and do it! And more amazing things. Is this not true democracy? I would rather help realize the dreams of the people who live here, in OUR CITY, then to witness outside developers come in and milk tax payers just to increase their bottom line and make us look like the standard model. We are NOT the standard model. The parkways are a tribute to that. If any city council folks read this I really wish you all would stop making these big dept deals with out of state companys. It's time to let the people who live here and know it envision, develop, and direct, as we see our dreams evolve in it. And anyway, you have no choise!  The arts community is getting stronger every day and you can't stop ideas and imagination put to practice by merely removing money. Listen to PEOPLE, not MONEY. So find the artists, the futurists, the visionaries, and ask them; What does Minneapolis/St.Paul want to show the world? How can we do it right and be that instant world wide catalyst?
Rambelin Ray Rolfe
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