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Colin Rusch

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Curator's Chat
Posted: Apr 23, 2004 1:52 PM

The third piece from NYFA is a conversation between three independent curators. I think there is some interesting stuff in here about the relationship of people doing creative work and institutions. Have at it.

http://www.mnartists.org/article.do?rid=37986

Colin

jaime longoria

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Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Sep 23, 2004 9:01 AM

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I read the article. I laughed. I chuckled and then a small tear ran down my cheek.

What is the role of the Curator? Are they hot, new, vision driven rockstars of the Art Scene? Is Art only the fodder of their "trade".

Is Art only "fashion"?

Please note my brother that no one came to this post.

the coyote is sad

coyote infinity
chicano artist minnesota

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Sep 24, 2004 7:31 PM

I remember this because Franklin Sirmans currated "Sweet Dreams" @Soap.

Curators Chat? Maybe I was confused as to how to particapate. Was there a chat? Looks like there was an multi-perspective interview on which to comment after the fact.

Well, timeless as it all is, no need to cry.

Curate something and lets chat about it.

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Sep 24, 2004 7:48 PM

For instance, now that I've read the article i'm inspired to curate.

As I've said before, lets do a show composed of forum regulars. I take it, as curator there is the responsibility of initiating the action. I'm not yet sure of the balance to which the artists self-curate, but hey forum roomies. Chime in. Do we want an mnartists.org show by the artists and for the artists? (rather then waiting for the academics or institutions to choose us?)
I say lets do it!

jaime longoria

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Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Sep 30, 2004 12:25 PM

> For instance, now that I've read the article i'm
> inspired to curate.
>
> As I've said before, lets do a show composed of forum
> regulars. I take it as curator there is the
> responsibility of initiating the action. I'm not yet
> sure of the balance to which the artists self-curate,
> but hey forum roomies. Chime in. Do we want an
> mnartists.org show by the artists and for the
> artists? (rather then waiting for the academics or
> institutions to choose us?)
> I say lets do it!

Run for the MAEP!

Start campaigning now!

Go this Saturday to the "Propaganda Show" and put up your campaign sign!!!

coyote infinity

jaime longoria

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Registered: Oct 7, 2002

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Oct 5, 2004 7:26 AM

> > For instance, now that I've read the article i'm
> > inspired to curate.
> >
> > As I've said before, lets do a show composed of
> forum
> > regulars. I take it as curator there is the
> > responsibility of initiating the action. I'm not
> yet
> > sure of the balance to which the artists
> self-curate,
> > but hey forum roomies. Chime in. Do we want an
> > mnartists.org show by the artists and for the
> > artists? (rather then waiting for the academics or
> > institutions to choose us?)
> > I say lets do it!
>
> Run for the MAEP!
>
> Start campaigning now!
>
> Go this Saturday to the "Propaganda Show" and put up
> your campaign sign!!!
>
>
> coyote infinity

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Oct 5, 2004 7:36 AM

Busy morning huh?

I made my sign. It's in the clasic style of the homeless "god bless" cardboard sign. I'd scan it to show, but my access has been confused.

Shannon Bates

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Registered: Sep 29, 2004

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 4, 2004 8:35 AM

I wanna see the sign Ray! Seriously though, thats a good idea and I am surprised to see the subject dropped off into the blue. Maybe I'm just bored right now and am looking for a conversation to butt into.

For our artist curated show I want to nominate Sean McKenna's "Sunset #103" http://www.mnartists.org/work.do?rid=5387
Any one want to second my motion or nominate another work?
Ray, what do you think of having a theme to the show? Maybe we should know that before we start nominating works? Just an idea.

Ray Rolfe

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Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 7, 2004 4:34 PM

I never put up the cardboad sign. I didn't catch the meeting date untill it had allready occured. It just said "Ray Rolfe for MAEP". I ended up submitting another art image. It worked out because some fellow artist hung the clasic "Homeless - please help - God bless" sign anyway.

But yeah, You rock Shannon! Thanks for bringing this conversation back to life. Your currating a Minnesota show from the other side of the Planet! Awesome. That sunset is deeply good. The link was broke though, here http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=53877 .

It can be fun and educational to explore art by theams. But then again, artists for this effort are self selecting. I don't know if we have the power to select anyone we want, and expect the work to be available for a physical showing. Maybe the best way could be "Exploration of emergent naritives".

gotta run, but more thought here soon for sure.

Shannon Bates

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Registered: Sep 29, 2004

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 7, 2004 11:34 PM

Maybe it doesn't have to be a physical show. Just put together a collection in this forum maybe? Bring up interesting artwork done by fellow mnartists.org connoisseurs for discussion?
Waiting for more thought from Ray!

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 8, 2004 6:17 PM

Well yeah, but thats just to simple isn't it? We need a great big complex physical show to prove it to the Walker/McKnight. Prove what? I don't know, something magical. Ahh well, you're right.

The second work to bring to attention is by Terry L Maloney. I'm going with the sunset theam untill the naritive changes.
http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=25141 .

4 sunsets from the same location. Kinda just what we were talking about.

AND it's a work that doesn't even exist physicaly because the quad-tech (?) is a digital jpeg.

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 8, 2004 7:32 PM

OK here is an example of how I do it.
I'm looking for a "branch" out from the referenced works, we have sunsets from Sean McKenna, then Terry Maloney. The later being taken in Saint Paul. So I used Saint paul as a search term in the mnartists engine and found Michael Fallons article on the Rossmore. Clicking further, I discovered a picture in the article, of Armando Gutierrez's "Prometheus" mural. http://mnartists.org/uploads/news/12604462411fc8c6e0d4f918cc68cf80/12604462411fc8c6e0d4f918cc68cf80.jpg .

Having just spent a few hours with Longoria about a video I made at the Chicano Visions show, of both him and Mr. Armando, I found "Prometheus" immediately desirable to "curate". But Armando does not have an mnartists.org gallery. However, the woman who took the picture, Rebecca Pavlenko, does.

SO, this round, I have decided to put into play Rebeccas work "Detective Fiction 3" http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=44441 .
Because it strangly matches my search for it.

Where can you go from here? Black and white photos? Images with text? Whispering? Widow veils?

Connect the artists, la la lala.

Shannon Bates

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Registered: Sep 29, 2004

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 9, 2004 12:06 AM

I like where this is going Ray. This little project can and will keep me busy all day. I really liked "Detective Fiction 3." Nice.
Here is what I found. Feel free to veto anything you want.
Gary French "Morning Glory"
http://www.mnartists.org/work.do?rid=8176 Interesting oil painting. Wide Variety of color. Appealing to the eye. Funny though, its named "Morning Glory" but the artist expressed his love for sunsets. I sense a contradiction here, but we won't hold that against him.

Matthew Roedel "Coffee shop sunset, Amsterdam"
http://www.mnartists.org/work.do?rid=14983
I was drawn to the shadows in this one. When you look to the light source you eyes kinda do this squinty thing like you are really there.

Matthew Roedel again "Sunset Barn"
http://www.mnartists.org/work.do?rid=15463
You gotta love the lines in this one.

Well Ray, I tried to look for a little bit of everything. These are the ones I found and liked after about a half hour of searching. Just trying to get something to work with. I'll keep looking.
How does one go about putting together a physical show. These things are all new to me.
Shannon

Ray Rolfe

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Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 13, 2004 6:52 PM

Those are all above great! I didn't see them at all when I searched for sunsets. Good eye! I love the different aspects of light. Matthew Roedel was in the right places at the right times.

So I took off with the idea of searching for "Light" I found some poems and an interesting candel. And Connie Beckers came up. I know her from the North Side so I wanted to put the Goddess of Glass in the mix. I like this sun lamp. http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=51310

For my naritive, it bridges the solar theam to one of colored light. A pleasent segway to Dustin Feiders "Panels of Light". http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=47727 I like what he says about the complexities of shape in an urban street environment.

(Side note: Lightsey Darst came up, with an artical "DOOMED SOD: EMILY JOHNSON'S "CATALYST" AT THE SOAP FACTORY" and I just want her to know that the Sod was not doomed. We put it in the back yard of Sargent Sheppeck where it now grows green, even in this December wind

)

Still looking for Light, I'm in the BRIAN M. GARDNER gallery. I entered by way of Our Lady of Lourdes http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=47460
As he was taking the picture a mysterious man came up and told him to use a flash. I like that.
And his gallery is full of other black and white pictures.

I think i'm off the mark for this curation turn. I'll just screw up the concept compleatly and curate a curator. Light can be both a wave, and a partical. So here is a fantastic entry into electro-magnetisim from Brian Carroll http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=27377
And if thats not enought to look at, you can't go wrong with his deconstructed Walker AC Photo in the architectural photographs section http://mnartists.org/work.do?rid=42197

So I think I have found the trancendent point of this activity. Digitaly, you can curate other curators. And with the non-locality, you can in fact curate entire galleries.
Shannon, you asked how do you compose a physical show? You need to collect physical works and have a physical space to show them. Would you agree that this is perhaps a meta-physical show? Or maybe a meta-informational exhibition. Haha I'm just amusing myself. Sory. Later.

Shannon Bates

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Registered: Sep 29, 2004

Re: Curator's Chat
Posted: Dec 15, 2004 2:07 PM

Ray! been a while since i heard from you! you must be busy with the holiday season and all.
Did you want to try and make this an actually physical show at some point in time. I would really like to be part of the process as much as location will allow. Maybe we should discuss some logistics. You could learn me a few things about shows and stuff before we keep curating. I have a few more favorite I found. But i will wait to show you them. I liked the ones you picked!
This has been one of the best art disscusions I have had in a long time. Ray you rock!

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