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Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 18, 2003 9:24 PM
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Good Franconia recap. I will be sure not to miss it next year.

This article http://mnartists.org/article.do?rid=27747
"The First and Last Frontier". LOVE IT. The pure simple truth. Good work.

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
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Posted: Oct 18, 2003 9:34 PM
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This article http://mnartists.org/article.do?rid=28012
NOOOOO! ! ! I never got up there!! NO, NOT YET!

HOW DO WE SAVE THE NORSHORE?
How can it cost $500 a day for heat? Thats 15 thousand bucks a month. Did they just get an offer they couldn't refuse or is this for real? There ARE ways to stay open with volunteer staff and just close it down for winter. Thats what we do at No Name. You don't need heat, it's the art and creativity thats hot!
Come on, get thinking. Solar rooftop = FREE Electric heat. (after instalation of course) And there are programs to do this.
We can find the funding to open you up again by the spring NORSHORE. I refuse to belive another experimental Tuesday will not happen. Please! I NEED to experience it. It is vital to my artistic development and I can only imagine how artists in Duluth feel tonight.

Ray Rolfe

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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 24, 2003 2:32 AM
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Fallon, The Van Gogh artical. THANKYOU!!!! The more I learn about Vincent...., well, I can't say it, I just feel like I know him. I've been living with Van Gogh for about a year now, I found a print of "Sunflowers" in the trash down the block from where I grew up in Northeast..

>>>>>>Unfortunately, nowadays we live in a well-mannered age, a time when all the passion has been drained from our manner of living. We spend endless empty hours on the freeway, sitting at a desk in front of one cathode-ray tube or another, attending PTA meetings or watching kids practice soccer at a park, avoiding our own lives with diversion and entertainments, and doing very little of any creative significance. Our lives are anything but passionate. Our age is an age of anti-passion.
Is it any wonder then that art is so popular a practice now? We all dream of being a closet Van Gogh--chucking our shit jobs, our credit debt, and all the chintz that fills our crackerbox houses to live a life more meaningful and real, to be the passionate humans we are meant to be. No wonder there are so many more people who claim to be artists than ever before (2.5 million according to the last census), and no wonder we worship the painter Van Gogh so--we're all looking for a glimpse of the natural creative passion that is our birthright.<<<<<<<<

I CAN NOT AGREE MORE STRONGLY. QUIT YR FUCKING JOBS, DROP OUT OF SCHOOL. DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR HEART IN IT. THE SUN IS EXPLODING FOR CHRISTS SAKE. FEEL THE PASSION OF THE UNIVERSE NOW!!!!!!! BE THE PASSION OF THE UNIVERSE NOW!



Gabriel Combs

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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 24, 2003 4:39 AM
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whoaa, i feelin that... would you like a pastry with that sir?

Gabriel Combs

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 5:30 PM
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Very good, Mr. Fallon. This is a much better veiw into the mind of the critic, too. It takes away the "job". Your peice of writing here exemplifies your point.

Ray Rolfe

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:16 PM
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While we're apresheating your writing Michael, I have to comment that the "Fear, Honor, Obey" thing in CP was great too. It's an interesting contrast to the writings on Vincent Van. My favorite part is the bold quote block saying:
"Milgram perceived that you learn authoritive commands from parents before you learn to perceive morality. Thats the area where people can then be exploited - through the aplication of authority".
Cuz of course I have some other reference to tie it into. I'm currently refreshing my knowledge on the topic of Athoritive learning VS Creative learning. Hopefully this will lead to LESS exploitation.


Ray

Ray Rolfe

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:23 PM
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Another fine coinsidence while i'm in here; the Norshore. I met the financial man for the Norshore today! Just so happens his wife is writing a review of the Soap Factory show! He'd be a good guy for Dale to meet since he's connected to the Duluth Institute of Arts. Said he reads the forums and recognized that I'm trouble. Hehe, I hope I don't have to much of a trouble aura around me. I'm just tryin to understand ya know.

TTFN

Gabriel Combs

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 8:39 PM
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Another thing coming to your neck of the woods, Dale... My freind Charlie Kraft may be coming to the Pizza Luce up there for an art show...
sorry this does'nt have anything to do with the topic, moderators...

Sam Spiczka

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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 24, 2003 9:16 PM
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You two causing off-topic trouble in here?!

I enjoyed the Van Gogh article as well. But I did take away the subtext that the myths of Van Gogh can be a negative influence on aspiring artists because it gives them hope when perhaps they shouldn't have any. That it serves to fuel their mis-application of time, potentially driving them to the same self-destruction as Van Gogh without any of the posthumous vindication. Anybody else get this or am I just projecting?

Sam

Gabriel Combs

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Posted: Oct 24, 2003 9:23 PM
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Mis
Application
Serves

Sam Spiczka

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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 24, 2003 10:32 PM
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Hey Ann, I love the new review (though I haven't seen the show). I enjoy the smart, sassy tone. Do you (or any other critic for that matter) ever dread running into someone on the street you've written an unfavorable review about? Ever been kicked in the shins by an angry artist/curator?

And the more I think about it, the more I think I misread that Van Gogh piece. Could be the artist is a necessary beacon to a people hemmed into their SUVs. He could just be a tool for people to understand their own dissatisfations.

Sam

Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
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Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 25, 2003 6:46 PM
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I just read your review Ann. Better watch out for that Megan Harrison!
I have one thing to let you know though. The Cherry Blossoms.... well... hey the show closes tomorrow so I can freely reveal this, those "petals" were pink chewing gum! That explains their mysterious falling action. There was alot of 'everything is not as it seems' logic in the show. But good honest review. I like the question and it's a good point, will the NNG soap factory find a curator who can fulfill the buildings potential??
I'll do my best with the volunteer show/ season opener in April.

Michael Fallon

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Posted: Oct 26, 2003 11:16 AM
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Ray Rolfe

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From: Northeast Minneapolis
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Posted: Oct 26, 2003 9:58 PM
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Ah, very wise Fallon-son. I was a bit to intence perhaps. "Passion stand-ins", I like that idea.
A better sugjestion, one that I've heard and belive in might be to DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND THE DETAILS WILL TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

Ann Klefstad

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From: Duluth
Registered: Feb 25, 2003
Re: Feedback on Articles
Posted: Oct 27, 2003 3:12 PM
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Do I ever get kicked in the shins by people I've reviewed negatively? Not that exactly, but lost job opportunities, yes, lost friendships, yes, lost a certain kind of social life, yes. But fortunately I'm kind of hermetic and don't have any great need to be liked. When I'm writing critique I'm not my --what would you call it--psychological, personable, social self. I'm simply devoted to the intention of the work and its potential, and interested in thinking about how this particular instantiation of the work plays out in terms of these things. Works are entities; both artists and critics should serve them before they serve themselves. Cf. Michael's very interesting Van Gogh piece.

Ann Klefstad

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